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  • #16
    Originally posted by Greenstealth View Post
    Obviously innocent until the media says you are guilty. I don't know what the punishment is for making a false rape accusation or if it is distinguished from filing a false police report at all, but it should be and the penalties should be harsh imo.
    How would you even enforce that? The DNA puts him with her. Unless an eye witness or camera caught the event, there's no way to prove she's lying. You going to throw the accuser in jail every time a defendant is found not guilty?
    "If I was racist in my opinion of QB's, I wouldn't have a dog named Donovan." - downundermike

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    • #17
      speaking of which Crystal Mangum should be hearing her fate today in the stabbing death of her live in boyfriend.

      http://www.wral.com/news/video/13111117/

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      • #18
        I don't know. Jemelle Hill was on mike and mike this morning and she mentioned something like a 97% of people coming forward with rape accusations are telling the truth. I don't know where she got that number I don't like her articles but she was a victim of an attempted rape so she was on mike and mike. I really hate cataldi. I think people that lie about rape cause some doubt in actual victim's cases. Plus any time a man is associated with even allegations of it, he has to shoulder it for a long time. The way it seems society views it, you would probably be better off being accused of murder.
        Last edited by Greenstealth; 11-21-2013, 05:21 PM.

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        • #19
          Yeah, I agree. With public records laws and every other employee leaking shit online nowadays, if you get accused of rape, it's going to be attached to your name for a long time. Public opinion wise, anyway. It pretty much sucks for everyone involved.
          "If I was racist in my opinion of QB's, I wouldn't have a dog named Donovan." - downundermike

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          • #20
            Bunch of horseshit

            This is Duke lacrosse all over again.

            Winston's attorney said they knew all along they would find his DNA. He has never said he wasn't there. And the witness statements will completely exonerate him.

            Jameis banged this chick on the reg, while having a girlfriend. With his girlfriend coming to visit that week he tried to remain distant from her. She was jilted, and threatened to accuse him of rape, she subsequently filed the report. It was quiet once she realized she was fucking with the boosters. Now the question is who drudged this up. Who sent that TBT reporter the exact case # so he could start making inquiries?

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            • #21
              Not the same as Duke Lacrosse

              There was no DNA evidence in that one. Whole different ball of wax here. The only defense is consensual sex - how does he prove it?
              "I could buy you." - The Village Idiot

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Riccardo View Post
                There was no DNA evidence in that one. Whole different ball of wax here. The only defense is consensual sex - how does he prove it?
                The burden of proof is on the state, and with the state being Florida, he should sleep pretty soundly.
                "If I was racist in my opinion of QB's, I wouldn't have a dog named Donovan." - downundermike

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                • #23
                  JWs story has ALWAYS been it that it was consensual. One of the affidavits is from the accuser’s roommate and the other is from another football player, both of whom were present (happened at HER apartment, not a bar, not a party, not JWs place) both confirm that they had an ongoing relationship.

                  There are photos of the two of them together taken before AND after the initial allegation. The roommate claims she was pissed at JW for some reason that night and decided to claim rape, perhaps because he told her his real GF was coming in town that day. She changed her mind after the call but before the cops got there but didn’t want to tell them she made it up. Thus the “unidentified” rapist…intentionally fabricated description.

                  We will see what happens I guess.

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                  • #24
                    Yeah, but it's not always black and white. Just because they're in a relationship doesn't mean he can't rape her.

                    Again, though. It sounds like there's probably not much to this case, so I think he'll be alright.
                    "If I was racist in my opinion of QB's, I wouldn't have a dog named Donovan." - downundermike

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                    • #25
                      Youre right

                      Listen most of what I have posted is stuff Ive picked up from around campus, I dont go there any more but I still have friends who are in the same sorority as the alleged victim. Obviously if it comes out that this girl is not the alleged victim that all goes out the window.

                      No its not impossible that Jameis could have raped someone but atleast give the kid his day in court, if it comes to that, before you start calling him Rapist Winston.

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                      • #26
                        I called him rapist winston

                        Originally posted by broadstreetparade View Post
                        Listen most of what I have posted is stuff Ive picked up from around campus, I dont go there any more but I still have friends who are in the same sorority as the alleged victim. Obviously if it comes out that this girl is not the alleged victim that all goes out the window.

                        No its not impossible that Jameis could have raped someone but atleast give the kid his day in court, if it comes to that, before you start calling him Rapist Winston.
                        And I also said I made the title sensational. A discussion on igglephans isn't hurting your hero's chances in court. I was curious about your sources and I was going to ask where you were pulling the info from. I'm glad you cleared that up. A spurned gumar can definitely do some damage.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Greenstealth View Post
                          And I also said I made the title sensational. A discussion on igglephans isn't hurting your hero's chances in court. I was curious about your sources and I was going to ask where you were pulling the info from. I'm glad you cleared that up. A spurned gumar can definitely do some damage.

                          I wasnt speaking directly to Melchior. I know it came off that way but I meant you as in all the people calling for the kids head already.

                          Shame of it is this will follow this team for the rest of this season and will follow Winston the rest of the career no matter how it ends. Even bigger shame if it turns out some sort of crime was committed. The whole situation sucks for everyone involved.
                          Last edited by broadstreetparade; 11-21-2013, 10:42 PM.

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