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  • #76
    Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
    I think misrepresenting a bill, that is turned into a law, that affects EVERY SINGLE LIVING PERSON in this country is a pretty damn big deal.
    I agree and it is done daily. But alot of the ACA is blown out of proportion. Did Obama say you could keep your policy? yes. But anyone with a brain could figure out if the Employer dropped or changed your policy you would not be able to keep it. The same it always has been.

    There is plenty to hate about Obama. He has told plenty of lies. But as I have explained to many people focusing on places he misspoke (you can keep your insurance, should have been you can keep your insurance as long as your employer chooses to stay with the same policy) or the things like he is kenyan or muslim, is a mistake. We should focus on actual lies he has spewed and the evil acts he has perpetrated.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Maniac View Post
      the old system was totally fkkked. the new system is imperfect but at least its something to build on. i'm glad it passed. now lets make it better.
      Right on.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Maniac View Post
        the old system was totally fkkked. the new system is imperfect but at least its something to build on. i'm glad it passed. now lets make it better.
        It will be interesting. There is many things in it that are great some things that are horrible. Hopefully we are a step in the right direction and not a side step. But at least it is something

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        • #79
          Originally posted by harls View Post
          We should focus on actual lies he has spewed and the evil acts he has perpetrated.
          who cares now. he's gone in two years anyway. the question is whether we'll have a psycho teabagger or a rational liar next. because you can't speak truth and win.

          obama was a big disappointment but still better than the alternative. if mccain and romney hadn't bowed down to the tea bag wackos, i could have voted for either.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by harls View Post
            I agree and it is done daily. But alot of the ACA is blown out of proportion. Did Obama say you could keep your policy? yes. But anyone with a brain could figure out if the Employer dropped or changed your policy you would not be able to keep it. The same it always has been.

            There is plenty to hate about Obama. He has told plenty of lies. But as I have explained to many people focusing on places he misspoke (you can keep your insurance, should have been you can keep your insurance as long as your employer chooses to stay with the same policy) or the things like he is kenyan or muslim, is a mistake. We should focus on actual lies he has spewed and the evil acts he has perpetrated.

            Harls, you misunderstand, I am self employed, have been since I was 21 years old, I have ALWAYS paid my own way, I have never had an employer benefit of any kind, hell even thou I pay into unemployment every damn week, you do realize I can't collect ONE DAMN DAY of unemployment, I'm not entitled to it.

            I have NEVER gotten an unemployment check, a welfare check, or food stamps, but IE think I want a free ride, go figure.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Maniac View Post
              who cares now. he's gone in two years anyway. the question is whether we'll have a psycho teabagger or a rational liar next. because you can't speak truth and win.

              obama was a big disappointment but still better than the alternative. if mccain and romney hadn't bowed down to the tea bag wackos, i could have voted for either.
              I care. I care about the people needlessly killed due to Obama's lies and violations of the constitution. I care about the people needlessly killed from GW's lies and violations of the constitution. Same as for Clinton, Bush Sr, and so many presidents before them. I care about the vicious cycle of presidents sending me to war for corporate greed, spying on americans, killing americans on our own soil.

              If you do not care because the president is only in office for 2 more years what about the next and the next. We as a country are screwed as long as we are on this path.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
                I have NEVER gotten an unemployment check, a welfare check, or food stamps.
                same here but it doesn't bother me at all. food stamps are proven to drive the economy better than most anything. the object is to circulate money not siphon it out to swiss bank accounts. even a millionaire only needs one toothbrush.

                i know someone who gets food stamps. They work their ass off and buy their food at Aldi. i can't begrudge them cable tv.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Maniac View Post
                  same here but it doesn't bother me at all. food stamps are proven to drive the economy better than most anything. the object is to circulate money not siphon it out to swiss bank accounts. even a millionaire only needs one toothbrush.

                  i know someone who gets food stamps. They work their ass off and buy their food at Aldi. i can't begrudge them cable tv.


                  BUT, if you are laid off tom. you CAN collect, RIGHT.

                  I can't even thou I have paid into the system for 35 years, got it now?

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Maniac View Post
                    same here but it doesn't bother me at all. food stamps are proven to drive the economy better than most anything. the object is to circulate money not siphon it out to swiss bank accounts. even a millionaire only needs one toothbrush.

                    i know someone who gets food stamps. They work their ass off and buy their food at Aldi. i can't begrudge them cable tv.
                    Same here. I've never taken a penny from food stamps, welfare, etc.

                    I do hope that Social Security is still around when I retire. And I expect it will be around unless the right wingers succeed in destroying it.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
                      BUT, if you are laid off tom. you CAN collect, RIGHT.

                      I can't even thou I have paid into the system for 35 years, got it now?
                      You seem bitter. What is your problem?
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by harls View Post
                        We as a country are screwed as long as we are on this path.
                        correct but nothing can change for two years. and obama, although disappointing, has been better than his predecessor.

                        i expect we get hillary vs. christie in 2016. do you trust either of them to choose a better path?
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by harls View Post
                          I care. I care about the people needlessly killed due to Obama's lies and violations of the constitution. I care about the people needlessly killed from GW's lies and violations of the constitution. Same as for Clinton, Bush Sr, and so many presidents before them. I care about the vicious cycle of presidents sending me to war for corporate greed, spying on americans, killing americans on our own soil.

                          If you do not care because the president is only in office for 2 more years what about the next and the next. We as a country are screwed as long as we are on this path.


                          EXACTLY, I had brought this up before, but was told it was all the R's fault and the Dems were as pure as the fresh fallen snow. This agenda will not change until we can somehow elect people that are more concerned about the future of our country and it's people than their own career path.
                          Last edited by Eagle Road; 11-23-2013, 11:36 PM.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Maniac View Post
                            correct but nothing can change for two years. and obama, although disappointing, has been better than his predecessor.

                            i expect we get hillary vs. christie in 2016. do you trust either of them to choose a better path?

                            NO, same show, different day.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Maniac View Post
                              same here but it doesn't bother me at all. food stamps are proven to drive the economy better than most anything. the object is to circulate money not siphon it out to swiss bank accounts. even a millionaire only needs one toothbrush.

                              i know someone who gets food stamps. They work their ass off and buy their food at Aldi. i can't begrudge them cable tv.
                              There are those who scam the foodstamp system and I would like to see that lowered but at the end of the day the foodstamp fraud pales in comparison the defense spending fraud and many others.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
                                I can't even thou I have paid into the system for 35 years, got it now?
                                Not really.

                                i'm not sure why you couldn't collect but you don't think you could find a job?

                                And you will collect Social Security.
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