Is it true? Do you remember where you were when JFK was shot?

[IronEagle]

correct but nothing can change for two years. and obama, although disappointing, has been better than his predecessor.

i expect we get hillary vs. christie in 2016. do you trust either of them to choose a better path?

Ugh. In that scenario I would probably vote for Christie.

I don't think he will get through the Tea Party nominating process though.

[harls]

EXACTLY, I had brought this up before, but was told it was all the R's fault and the Dems were as pure as the fresh fallen snow.

The same way the Republicans point to the democrats saying it is all their fault and the republicans are as pure and the fresh fallen snow.

[Eagle Road]

The same way the Republicans point to the democrats saying it is all their fault and the republicans are as pure and the fresh fallen snow.

Exactly!

[Maniac]

I don't think he will get through the Tea Party nominating process though.

if christie doesn't bow to the tea party, i could vote for him. but they'll probably nominate rand paul or the wack job from texas.

[harls]

correct but nothing can change for two years. and obama, although disappointing, has been better than his predecessor.

i expect we get hillary vs. christie in 2016. do you trust either of them to choose a better path?

Well with Hillary you have Bill there and hopefully be able to get the budget back on track.... But the clintons have a whole lot of blood on their hands. Christie seemed like the typical republican up until the hurricane. Since then he has at least shown he is willing to work across party lines when it benefits him. That is more then can be said for many of the politicians these days.

[Eagle Road]

Not really.

i'm not sure why you couldn't collect but you don't think you could find a job?

And you will collect Social Security.

You really don't understand that self-employed people CAN'T collect un-employment? Even if they go bankrupt,, bottom line is you can't.

[harls]

if christie doesn't bow to the tea party, i could vote for him. but they'll probably nominate rand paul or the wack job from texas.

If Rand was more like his old man I could Vote for him. granted if he was more like his dad the GOP would black ball him and the media would try to make him into a joke.

[Maniac]

You really don't understand that self-employed people CAN'T collect un-employment? Even if they go bankrupt,, bottom line is you can't.

my understanding is that bankrupt is not out of business. it just relieves some of your debts.

if you truly close down, don't you get unemployment?

[harls]

my understanding is that bankrupt is not out of business. it just relieves some of your debts.

if you truly close down, don't you get unemployment?

Quick google search and found the following...

Self-employed people can become unemployed if their business has to close down. It may also be the case, though you continue to be self-employed the amount of work you are getting has reduced so much that it no longer provides you with a sufficient income.

If you find yourself unemployed or you are getting less work you may qualify for a social welfare payment. You do not need to de-register as self-employed to get a social welfare payment.

If you do not qualify for a social welfare payment you may be eligible to sign on for unemployment credits or pay voluntary contributions. Unemployment credits and voluntary contributions can help you to qualify for a social insurance payment in the future.

The website selfemployedsupports.ie has information on the services and entitlements available.

[Maniac]

If Rand was more like his old man I could Vote for him. granted if he was more like his dad the GOP would black ball him and the media would try to make him into a joke.

the old man was a cynical racist bastard. gun to my head i'd take rand.

but neither of them live in the real world. it's not 1790 anymore.

[Maniac]

Self-employed people can become unemployed if their business has to close down. It may also be the case, though you continue to be self-employed the amount of work you are getting has reduced so much that it no longer provides you with a sufficient income.

If you find yourself unemployed or you are getting less work you may qualify for a social welfare payment. You do not need to de-register as self-employed to get a social welfare payment.

If you do not qualify for a social welfare payment you may be eligible to sign on for unemployment credits or pay voluntary contributions. Unemployment credits and voluntary contributions can help you to qualify for a social insurance payment in the future.

god bless america!

[Eagle Road]

my understanding is that bankrupt is not out of business. it just relieves some of your debts.

if you truly close down, don't you get unemployment?

Nope, can't collect one dime of what I have paid in all these years, There are a LOT of things like this that people who have never been self-employed don't understand.

Believe me, when your name is on the door, and you are writing the checks, everything changes.

[harls]

the old man was a cynical racist bastard. gun to my head i'd take rand.

but neither of them live in the real world. it's not 1790 anymore.

His old man was not perfect by a long shot. But his old man can see that our foreign policy of dictating how the rest of the world and having a presence in all these countries causes people to hate the country. Bringing our troops home from all around the world was a big enough reason to support anyone willing to do it.

[Maniac]

Nope, can't collect one dime of what I have paid in all these years, There are a LOT of things like this that people who have never been self-employed don't understand.

Believe me, when your name is on the door, and you are writing the checks, everything changes.

harls post seems to prove you wrong. hope you never have to find out.

[Maniac]

His old man was not perfect by a long shot. But his old man can see that our foreign policy of dictating how the rest of the world and having a presence in all these countries causes people to hate the country. Bringing our troops home from all around the world was a big enough reason to support anyone willing to do it.

fine line but you can influence without dictating.

definitely bring back the troops. brute force doesn't work well anymore.