With the 22nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft.............

[J_Cuz31]

A guy who runs 4.39 is not a possession receiver.

Yeah and running a 4.4 40 at your Pro Day doesn't mean you would have run a 4.4 40 at the combine. This guy is a good player with average speed. Don't let that biased 40 time turn him into Bob Hayes. Add 0.1 seconds and you probably have his true speed.

[slag]

Do the laws of physics not apply to Pro Days?

Are they magic days?

Like Jack's beanstalk beans?

[Ellsworth]

If polks shoulder is indeed Ok I'd be fine with that. Brown may never learn to not cut to the outside every time he has the ball in his hands.

I doubt brown plus the 22nd would get you the 19th though. Another pick would be required.

[CbEagle]

You are probably right I just want one of those two safties.

[Eagle In Ohio]

I keep hearing good things

About the kid Buchanan from Washington State

[J_Cuz31]

Pro days almost always time oug faster because they don't use electronic timing. The players are hand timed and since the human eye doesn't catch the first movement of the player the hand time is almost always faster. Its actually pretty basic physics and very dependebnt on the players form. In fact this was why the coaches at the combine were surprised to see that deanthony thomas was timed at over 4.5 at the combine when many coaches, who did their own hand timing alongside the official scorer, timed him at sub 4.4.

So yeah the physics of hand timing and electric timing differs.

[The Ref]

Brown may never learn to not cut to the outside every time he has the ball in his hands.

hyperbole. he doesn't. not all the time. he didn't have enough carries in any given game last year to even establish a pattern. he busted up the gut a number of times as a rookie. you know this.

[The Ref]

Not watching college football, here is what I gathered from the blizzard of draft information for the Eagles.

If Barr is still there at 22, he's the no-brainer pick no matter who else is still available.

After that, if Pryor or Clinton-Dix are still there, then they are the no-brainer pick.

If Barr, Pryor, and Clinton-Dix are all gone, then one of the WR's is the next choice, but not a no-brainer. Might go with a cornerback instead.

Is that the general consensus?

Still can't believe that A) Graham was drafted instead of Thomas. B) Jackson was released for nothing.

This year's deep draft is effected by two bad decisions the team made. Neither safety or WR would be a need this year if those things hadn't happened.

[Greenstealth]

Pro days almost always time oug faster because they don't use electronic timing. The players are hand timed and since the human eye doesn't catch the first movement of the player the hand time is almost always faster. Its actually pretty basic physics and very dependebnt on the players form. In fact this was why the coaches at the combine were surprised to see that deanthony thomas was timed at over 4.5 at the combine when many coaches, who did their own hand timing alongside the official scorer, timed him at sub 4.4.

So yeah the physics of hand timing and electric timing differs.

Latimer's spider graph is posted on Philly mag. It's pretty impressive and then they mention the data is from his pro day.

[Ellsworth]

Let me go back and watch all the all 22 film and see if that's correct. Perhaps I'm incorrect in saying brown has taken every single handoff he's ever received "outside". I do remember him fumbling one instead.

Are you that rigid that you take everything at face value? Jesus Christ. Only you would state he doesn't bounce every carry outside. REALLY?!! NO SHIT???

My point (which I'm sure you know but are just being a dick, as usual) is he's nothing special. and if we can move up 3 spots to snag someone we truly covet and it only costs him as a throw in it makes that decision a no brainer. Polk is perfectly fine and appears to be ahead of BB in chips pecking order now provided he's healthy.

Anyone who watches him play knows he's not a long term starter, fumbles too much, and lacks the discipline to stay in his running lanes. If you don't think he bounces plays outside too often you're wrong. He does.

[CbEagle]

I dont see why he is climbing the charts, except maybe the lack of safeties in this draft. Some are talking late rd1, while most have in mid rd2. I would be fine if one of these three defensive players are there at 22 Barr, Pryor, Fuller

[J_Cuz31]

Latimer's spider graph is posted on Philly mag. It's pretty impressive and then they mention the data is from his pro day.

Its wrong to compare his unofficial pro day figs to everyone else's official combine figs. That is, unless they let everyone who ran 40s at both the combine and pro day cherry pick the better performance. In that case Deanthony thomas' 4.5 40 time at the combine should be replaced and he should be credited with the 4.38 time he ran at his pro day.

[CbEagle]

Pretty much on target but I would put cb(one of the top three)between safety and wr, there are just so many wr's we can get great value in the second. You just never know what gamble and donahoe think about the players.

[Greenstealth]

Exactly. I wonder how far he would have climbed up if those numbers were combine numbers? I haven't watched Latimer and I'm not going to. The buzz the Eagles created last year kept me going pretty strong but it's basically predraft fatigue now. Every year there are a handful of players I look at it who seem to be on the Eagles radar. I hope it's Pryor or Barr or some other player who can improve the defense immediately. If Latimer or bryant is there in the second than I'm happy. I do not want to see a scenario where they burn a first round pick on Beckham or Benjamin or some of the other names being tossed around. I do like Brandin Cooks. He reminds of Djax, just a more rounded game.

[J_Cuz31]

Exactly. I wonder how far he would have climbed up if those numbers were combine numbers?

He is climbing up to the early second, late first because he compares favorably to Lee and Benjamin.

That said, 22nd overall is too rich for the fourth rated WR when this team has other needs. If they don't like the available options on the defensive side of the ball, and Watkins, Evans and Cooks are gone, they should seriously consider moving back a few slots. Maybe they could they could do a deal similar to what they pulled in '07 when they dealt out of the first round for a bucket of picks. That type of deal would make way more sense this year, with the historic depth at most positions, than it did when FF did it to over pay a little less for Kevin Slob.