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  • #16
    well based on what was posted in this thread

    You are claiming chip's practice/training contributed to these injuries, IE only says "it doesn't appear to be effective in preventing them". Big difference.
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    • #17
      I think it has more to do with the lack of contact and the new CBA, preseason is all pussified now & a super waste of time (always has been)

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      • #18
        Then what are you saying? I don't get this line of complaining. The hydration and sleep monitoring has nothing to do with preventing these types of injuries. Remember at the end of the first season when a lot of players were stating that they felt more rested and less sore/fatigued than they ever had previously? Isn't that what it is about?

        You and IE are really smart guys. Maybe you're just using this as an example of the "myth of Chip Kelly" being overblown. Otherwise, this strikes me as being intentionally silly.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by McCarthy12 View Post
          Then what are you saying? I don't get this line of complaining. The hydration and sleep monitoring has nothing to do with preventing these types of injuries. Remember at the end of the first season when a lot of players were stating that they felt more rested and less sore/fatigued than they ever had previously? Isn't that what it is about?

          You and IE are really smart guys. Maybe you're just using this as an example of the "myth of Chip Kelly" being overblown. Otherwise, this strikes me as being intentionally silly.
          Here's what Kelly said about DeMarco Murray:

          "That was our decision [to keep him out]," Kelly said, confirming what his running back told reporters a day earlier. "We deal with a hydration status test and he was a little bit high. And obviously when you see guys that are high -- from a hydration standpoint -- then you kind of pull them back a little bit, because that's when they are susceptible to injuries."
          Source: http://www.phillyvoice.com/chip-kell...boykin-cooper/

          Also Kelly has specifically stated that soft tissue injuries are preventable.

          "Obviously, the big issues you look at are the soft tissue injures, because those are preventable," Kelly said
          Source: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...event-injuries
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          "We choose to go to the moon."

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          • #20
            Yeah, you know what, I guess hydration does effect hamstrings. Fair enough. I'm not sure any level of hydration can totally prevent hamstring pulls. Certainly can't prevent tendon/ligament injuries or broken bones (at least I've never heard of that). If his hydration levels were low, doesn't that mean he didn't hydrate himself properly and Kelly had a mechanism in place to detect that? Isn't that a good thing?

            At the end of the day, it's impossible to say how many hamstring injuries his hydration program has prevented so there's nothing to measure it against. I just know that players have praised it for how they felt at the end of the year.
            Last edited by McCarthy12; 09-30-2015, 02:06 PM.
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            • #21
              When your business has problems, it would be negligent not to investigate the cause of those problems.

              The Eagles right now have a high incidence of hamstring and other muscle injuries. I wouldn't want my coach to simply say shit happens:

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              • #22
                IE is a really smart guy. If he told me the sun rose in the west, and Riccardo told me no it doesn't, I'd believe IE.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RSE View Post
                  The Eagles right now have a high incidence of hamstring and other muscle injuries. I wouldn't want my coach to simply say shit happens:
                  A professional football team has injured players, what gives?

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                  • #24
                    Wasn't there an article not too far back that said over the past two years, the Eagles have the least amount of injuries in the NFL?
                    -Slizz of Wangnutz

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                    • #25
                      Perhaps. And the two winters in Buffalo before I got here had 88 inches of snow combined. Those were, as it turned out, outliers. Fat lot of good they did me.

                      Chip has to reflect upon his training methods in light of all the muscle injuries. Yes?

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                      • #26
                        Bwaaa

                        Originally posted by RSE View Post
                        Perhaps. And the two winters in Buffalo before I got here had 88 inches of snow combined. Those were, as it turned out, outliers. Fat lot of good they did me.

                        Chip has to reflect upon his training methods in light of all the muscle injuries. Yes?
                        Two Buffalo winters are outliers but 3 iggle hamstrings are a trend? Hilarious!
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                        • #27
                          I'll do you a favor. I'll change my board handle to something more conducive to your being able to relentlessly post glib permutations of it to help you while away the time in your cubicle until sweet retirement releases you from your unhappy work existence.

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                          • #28
                            So goes it if he told you to be a wangnut you would start wearing one of these.

                            On Trumps handicap

                            “If Trump is a 2.8, Queen Elizabeth is a pole vaulter,” Reilly wrote

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                            • #29
                              Bwah! But yes. I trust he wouldn't tell me that.
                              Last edited by RSE; 09-30-2015, 03:38 PM.

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                              • #30
                                This opinion is valid, however, as Slag said above, I don't think the purpose of sleep, nutrition, and hydration is to prevent hamstring injuries.

                                I think the point is more to allow the body to promote recovery, and healing when something does happen.

                                I don't really consider Alonso to be part of this sample. He was damaged goods from the beginning.
                                -Slizz of Wangnutz

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