RIP Muhammad Ali

[SCREAMIN EAGLE]

And how do you feel about John Wayne?

Im pretty sure that John Wayne was never drafted. At the time of WWII he was 34 yrs old and had 4 kids. Not even close to the situation that Ali was in.

[Dim Bulb]

Draft Dodger?

Im pretty sure that John Wayne was never drafted. At the time of WWII he was 34 yrs old and had 4 kids. Not even close to the situation that Ali was in.

He didn't dodge anything imho. He refused to go and he served his time. He took the consequences of his principles. A draft dodger, like you or someone pointed out, is someone who burns their card and heads for Canada. Or takes deferments, or basically has daddy talk to the local draft board. A whole lot of that going on where I grew up. Those were the dodgers, not Ali. And I hated him until I started to actually find out about his life, like someone else said in this thread.

[Sect 236]

He wasn't drafted because he dodged it. He was afraid that because he wasn't that big in Hollywood at that time that if he left to fight, he'd come back to no career. So, while other actors (who were his age and also had kids) were off fighting, he got 3-A status to not fight because of "family dependency."

You're very much about absolutes, especially on this subject, so, if John Wayne's country needed him, there's no excuse for him to not go, right?

I guess one could argue that all the movies he made (13 in total) while his countrymen were risking their lives helped raise morale for those back home (it certainly helped raise his own profile, what with the other leading men not being able to take roles from him since they were in the war, not acting in one on a soundstage). But, if that's the argument you want to make, can't you also make an argument that the greatest boxer in the world, an American, fighting fights and entertaining his homeland could also be a morale boost?

[ishimonster]

This

Again, this is what makes him the GOAT.

http://youtu.be/MnY_FsxAChg

x1000

[PackWest]

That's a matter of opinion ... but the fact that he stayed and stood up for his reasoning is not.

Here's a documentary on Ali that covers those years
A college buddy of mine directed it

https://www.kartemquin.com/films/the-trials-of-muhammad-ali

[3rd & Inches]

Got Damn Right

[TerpEagle]

That sucks. He's a true American icon.

If you are ever in Louisville, his museum is definitely worth a visit.

[Irish George]

If you are gonna be a keyboard warrior

You have your opinion and I have mine about people who burn their draft cards and head to Canada. I'm sure the thousands of hippies who did the same thing didn't get the benefit of of doubt like Ali did.

at least get your history straight. You have no clue on this one. The VAST majority of americans, including my conservative, World War II marine hero dad, were vehimently opposed to that corupt, brutal and un-winnable war.

Were people who pulled a high number in the draft lottery "better" in your eyes than those who opted for Canada? How about the people who never went to class who got student deferments for four years?

Most people, including those who served, had no quibble with Ali's stance. Most young people of all races and creeds, agreed with "the hippies."

And by the way..he got no benefit of the doubt. Lost his ability to earn a living and gave up three years of his career prime.

Yes...you have your opinion. Too bad it is preconceived and not backed up by actual facts.

[Loki]

I'm sorry. You served in which branch?

[SCREAMIN EAGLE]

I'm sorry. You served in which branch?

What does that have to do with anything

[Eagle In Ohio]

Word Up

x1000

Short and sweet, but with the force of an Ali uppercut

[Irish George]

bwahahahhaa!!!

Calling a guy out for not serving when you never served...nah...that's got nothing to do with anything at all.

[SCREAMIN EAGLE]

Calling a guy out for not serving when you never served...nah...that's got nothing to do with anything at all.

Let it go dude, god forbid someone has an opinion that differs from yours. Move on

[Loki]

And there we have it...

from the safety of his mama's bosom comes the indignation.


You have no right to call anyone out on that. NONE!

[Irish George]

bwaahahahaa

from the safety of his mama's bosom comes the indignation.


You have no right to call anyone out on that. NONE!

Let it go dude. He never served has nothing to do with it. Inaccurate statements about the Vietnam era have nothing to do with it. He's got his opinion and you've got yours. Move on. Laughable, but mostly just pathetic.