I am disgusted.

[Eagle Road]

I'll make it simple, in this barrel you have 12% of the fish that are purple and the rest of the fish are other colors, in the other barrel you have 50% of the fish are purple, throw your line into both barrels, which barrel do you think you are going to get more purple fish out of?

[TerpEagle]

I'll make it simple, in this barrel you have 12% of the fish that are purple and the rest of the fish are other colors, in the other barrel you have 50% of the fish are purple, throw your line into both barrels, which barrel do you think you are going to get more purple fish out of?

What are you trying to say, that because there are larger black populations in inner cities and there is more crime in inner cities, we should disregard the black people killed by police there?

That makes perfect sense. The areas where police are more involved with the black community should be disregarded when discussing how many black people are shot to death by police.

Let's not include areas where there are large concentrations of white people either if we want to be fair. Let's only look at communities where there are an equal number of black and white people and see who's statistically more likely to get shot by the police.

[Eagle Road]

What are you trying to say, that because there are larger black populations in inner cities and there is more crime in inner cities, we should disregard the black people killed by police there?

That makes perfect sense. The areas where police are more involved with the black community should be disregarded when discussing how many black people are shot to death by police.

Let's not include areas where there are large concentrations of white people either if we want to be fair. Let's only look at communities where there are an equal number of black and white people and see who's statistically more likely to get shot by the police.

Swing and missed again,

you almost had it with you second paragraph, IF police are MORE involved with the black community in a more densely pop. area of black people, hence HIGHER than national average, that WILL skew your numbers the same way you pointed at Riccardo's stats saying the opposite.

[RSE]

I think you need to sit this one out.

[TerpEagle]

Swing and missed again,

you almost had it with you second paragraph, IF police are MORE involved with the black community in a more densely pop. area of black people, hence HIGHER than national average, that WILL skew your numbers the same way you pointed at Riccardo's stats saying the opposite.

What the fuck are you talking about.

You want me to exclude areas where black people are killed so that it better fits Riccardo's numbers?

You tell me the exact way you want to construct the numbers to fit your math. I gave you raw data that shows that proportionally, the black population is over twice a likely to be shot to death by a police officer as any one else in this country.

Clearly, you think parts of this country shouldn't count in that analysis. I can't imagine why.

[Eagle Road]

I think you need to sit this one out.

Just trying to say that those numbers posted are cherry picking no matter how you look at it, there are so many variables that you could go on forever twisting things to make them fit your personal narrative.

[Melchior]

Swing and missed again,

you almost had it with you second paragraph, IF police are MORE involved with the black community in a more densely pop. area of black people, hence HIGHER than national average, that WILL skew your numbers the same way you pointed at Riccardo's stats saying the opposite.

No, I don't think anyone has almost had it. What you're saying makes no sense.

[RSE]

So if I say 50% of Americans are male, your argument is that that statistic is skewed because there are certain counties with large prison populations so if you exclude them actually fewer than 50% of Americans are male. Did I get that right?

[Riccardo]

That's a nice comparison in a vaccuum too

You may want to look up the demographics of violent crime arrests/convictions

[Eagle Road]

So if I say 50% of Americans are male, your argument is that that statistic is skewed because there are certain counties with large prison populations so if you exclude them actually fewer than 50% of Americans are male. Did I get that right?

Nope, not what I was trying to get across.

[Eagle Road]

Simple question, if you have an inner city that is 12% black, and you have an inner city that is 50% black, with ALL other things being equal, which city will have the higher number of blacks killed by police?

I am NOT disputing that the number of blacks killed by police isn't higher than anyone else, I am disputing that you can't really get a true number because of the variables.

[slag]

You're using a stat in a vacuum ... just like you accused him of doing.

EDITED TO ADD: Which I just discovered he already called you on.

[Riccardo]

90+% of people killed by cops are male

Yet males make up 49.2% of the population. Why is this? Terp-analysis would conclude that cops are sexist, hate males, and therefore disproportionately shoot and kill them.

[udontknowme]

Yet males make up 49.2% of the population. Why is this? Terp-analysis would conclude that cops are sexist, hate males, and therefore disproportionately shoot and kill them.

Simple question for you.

Do you think that a black person is more likely to be harassed, illegally detained, or killed by a police officer in the United States than someone of another ethnicity?

[slag]

It's not a simple question ... that's the point.