And people say that school shootings are a bad thing.

[TerpEagle]

Look at this new industry that has sprouted up. School shootings are job creators!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashr...o-protect-kids

http://bodyguardblanket.com/pages/bg...dyguard02.html

[Big Little]

Good timing on this post

Shots fired at a Highschool in Portland Oregon

No link just breaking

[Big Little]

Now there is a link:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...land/10279083/

Also heard some schools are going to arm their teachers.. forget which state. Brilliant!

[JDuggernaut]

Now there is a link:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...land/10279083/

Also heard some schools are going to arm their teachers.. forget which state. Brilliant!

Idk about that. Teachers can be crazy too. I've always thought maybe having military veterans acting as security would be a good idea.

[TerpEagle]

Idk about that. Teachers can be crazy too. I've always thought maybe having military veterans acting as security would be a good idea.

Yeah, I hear PTSD is pretty prevalent among teachers. Either way, someone with a weapon should be around these school children.

[JDuggernaut]

Yeah, I hear PTSD is pretty prevalent among teachers. Either way, someone with a weapon should be around these school children.

You would obviously screen the soldiers for PTSD and any other mental issues they may have, and there are already people with weapons in the school (School Resource Officers). Someone with real experience in taking down armed assailants would be more capable of stopping a massacre than a teacher who may or may not have ever fired a gun in their lives. Plus it could be a job that a veteran could have into their 50s, which could help keep some of them off the streets.

[Eagle Road]

The bigger question that never seems to get answered is, "Why that school"? Or "Why that student(s)"




Just happenstance of a mentally ill person, or were there other reasons?


Reporting anymore only gives you the sensationalized headlines and never digs into the rest of the story.

[TerpEagle]

You would obviously screen the soldiers for PTSD and any other mental issues they may have, and there are already people with weapons in the school (School Resource Officers). Someone with real experience in taking down armed assailants would be more capable of stopping a massacre than a teacher who may or may not have ever fired a gun in their lives. Plus it could be a job that a veteran could have into their 50s, which could help keep some of them off the streets.

There is a more significant root cause to the problem here. The solution shouldn't have to be: let's provide schools with armed guards.

[Irish George]

bwahahaha

Yeah, I hear PTSD is pretty prevalent among teachers. Either way, someone with a weapon should be around these school children.

dont forget grenades

[TerpEagle]

The bigger question that never seems to get answered is, "Why that school"? Or "Why that student(s)"




Just happenstance of a mentally ill person, or were there other reasons?


Reporting anymore only gives you the sensationalized headlines and never digs into the rest of the story.

Obviously there are problems with individuals, however, this has become an epidemic. So much of one that a company is making bulletproof protection for children while they're at school.

Today's shooting is the 74th since Newtown. That's 74 in just over 77 weeks.

http://everytown.org/article/schoolshootings/

On average there has been a school campus shooting nearly once a week over the past 2.5 years. How can you call that statistic either sensationalized or happenstance?

[JDuggernaut]

There is a more significant root cause to the problem here. The solution shouldn't have to be: let's provide schools with armed guards.

I agree with you about the root cause, but it's easy for someone who is capable of committing an act like that to go unnoticed or slip through the cracks. Not every recluse or outcast would ever do something like that, so I'm not sure how to even identify the cause, and even if you can, I'm not sure it can be remedied.

[Eagle Road]

Obviously there are problems with individuals, however, this has become an epidemic. So much of one that a company is making bulletproof protection for children while they're at school.

Today's shooting is the 74th since Newtown. That's 74 in just over 77 weeks.

http://everytown.org/article/schoolshootings/

On average there has been a school campus shooting nearly once a week over the past 2.5 years. How can you call that statistic either sensationalized or happenstance?

You misunderstand my post, I am NOT calling the amount of times this has happened either happenstance or sensationalized, the media DOES sensationalize the story in that they paste the big headline out there, but they give you very little background on the story.


The happenstance part I was referring to is WHY are these deranged individuals drawn to schools?


Is it because they know they will get national coverage? or is because it is easy pickings?

[Riccardo]

Yeah it's a problem but you are stating misleading statistics

Those numbers include suicides and any gun violence on school properties, including gang violence. More realistic trend:

http://crimepreventionresearchcenter...last-20-years/

[TerpEagle]

Those numbers include suicides and any gun violence on school properties, including gang violence. More realistic trend:

http://crimepreventionresearchcenter...last-20-years/

That's a great graph on that site. 2012-2013 there were 30 deaths not gang or suicide (which you've made clear shouldn't be part of the guns are dangerous argument because) related. That's more than the previous 5 years combined. And 2013-2014 had 4 at the time of the article (I'm assuming Feb 2014) which was more than either all of 2011-2012 or 2010-2011.

Of the 35 (35!) shootings at schools in 2014, 2 are suspected of being gang-related. 19 people have been killed so far in 2014 from school shootings. 18 if you don't include the suspected gang-related incidents.

That linear trend is probably going to be a little flatter next year if it gets updated.

[T.D-Bag]

Joseph Robert Wilcox

His gun didn't help him the other day @walmart